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ToddCordellVAN
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 09.04.2013

May 23 @ 12:30 PM ET
HockeyBuzz Hotstove: Predicting the 2019 Conn Smythe winner
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

May 23 @ 12:34 PM ET
Agree with these choices EXCEPT giving the award to a player on the losing team. If STL wins you can’t give it to Rask.

Side note: No way Giguire should have won over Brodeur in 2003. Yes....still bitter!
claude1971
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Timmins, ON
Joined: 08.05.2010

May 23 @ 12:41 PM ET
Tuuka if Boston wins. Binnington if St Louis wins. That's my take at least
FoxMulder
Nashville Predators
Location: Christiana, TN
Joined: 02.26.2018

May 23 @ 12:44 PM ET
Tuuka Rask. He's good. He has an abnormally large forehead though.
Always Mighty
Anaheim Ducks
Joined: 09.08.2008

May 23 @ 12:46 PM ET
Agree with these choices EXCEPT giving the award to a player on the losing team. If STL wins you can’t give it to Rask.

Side note: No way Giguire should have won over Brodeur in 2003. Yes....still bitter!

- Crushers68


While Brodeur outplayed Giguere in the Cup Final, I think there's little doubt that Jiggy was the best goalie of the 03 Playoffs. Giving up only one goal in the Conference Final is I think what sealed it for him, along with his insane play in overtime.
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 23 @ 12:52 PM ET
awkward

lastmanback
St Louis Blues
Location: Catawissa, MO
Joined: 03.07.2008

May 23 @ 1:54 PM ET
Going off the reservation, but Schenn was starting to fire up against San Jose once Berube moved him back to center. I'm taking him.

Blues in 6, Schenn with 4g 3a.
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

May 23 @ 2:11 PM ET
While Brodeur outplayed Giguere in the Cup Final, I think there's little doubt that Jiggy was the best goalie of the 03 Playoffs. Giving up only one goal in the Conference Final is I think what sealed it for him, along with his insane play in overtime.
- Always Mighty


Doesn't matter. The TEAM LOST! So what is JSG then....the Most Valuable (Losing) Player? It's a freaking oxymoron.
Newgod77
Boston Bruins
Location: IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

May 23 @ 2:15 PM ET
Jake Gardiner.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

May 23 @ 2:32 PM ET
Hand pass for the Con Smythe
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

May 23 @ 2:40 PM ET
Agree with these choices EXCEPT giving the award to a player on the losing team. If STL wins you can’t give it to Rask.

Side note: No way Giguire should have won over Brodeur in 2003. Yes....still bitter!

- Crushers68


Eh, Giggy carried a mediocre team on his back and was overall better in the 4 rounds.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 23 @ 2:52 PM ET
Agree with these choices EXCEPT giving the award to a player on the losing team. If STL wins you can’t give it to Rask.

Side note: No way Giguire should have won over Brodeur in 2003. Yes....still bitter!

- Crushers68


A player can be far and away the best player in playoff/final and still have his team end up runner-up. I think that winning should be factor, but not a requirement.
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 23 @ 2:52 PM ET
Doesn't matter. The TEAM LOST! So what is JSG then....the Most Valuable (Losing) Player? It's a freaking oxymoron.
- Crushers68

dude you won the cup who cares?
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 23 @ 2:52 PM ET
A player can be far and away the best player in playoff/final and still have his team end up runner-up. I think that winning should be factor, but not a requirement.
- jmatchett383

and that year he was
gonch
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 23 @ 2:59 PM ET
Yeah, I don't normally respond but this guy is so wrong. While I do agree it should usually go to the winning team giguere had arguably one of the best playoff performances of all time. I have no horse in this race personally but to look at those two rosters at the time and especially what giguere did against the wild (5 goals in 4 games I believe in the conference finals!) is just about as deserving a winner as there could be
Always Mighty
Anaheim Ducks
Joined: 09.08.2008

May 23 @ 3:08 PM ET
Doesn't matter. The TEAM LOST! So what is JSG then....the Most Valuable (Losing) Player? It's a freaking oxymoron.
- Crushers68


The Conn Smythe Trophy is awarded to the most valuable player in the playoffs. You'll notice that the winning team is not mentioned. You also realize that Giguere was not the first to win it on a losing team, right? Between his overtime magic, one goal against in the 3rd round, pushing NJ to 7 games, and leading a Ducks team that had no business being in the Stanley Cup Final, I'd say he earned it.
Always Mighty
Anaheim Ducks
Joined: 09.08.2008

May 23 @ 3:10 PM ET
Yeah, I don't normally respond but this guy is so wrong. While I do agree it should usually go to the winning team giguere had arguably one of the best playoff performances of all time. I have no horse in this race personally but to look at those two rosters at the time and especially what giguere did against the wild (5 goals in 4 games I believe in the conference finals!) is just about as deserving a winner as there could be
- gonch


He only allowed one goal against in the Wild, in Game 4. He shutout Minnesota in the other three games.
Hull16
St Louis Blues
Location: St.Louis, MO
Joined: 07.04.2006

May 23 @ 3:47 PM ET
Boston wins and Rask gets it.
STL wins Schwartz gets it, especially if he scores a big goal or two in the finals. To the guy who picked Schenn for MVP, I disagree that he wins the Conn Smythe, but totally agree he is primed for a big finals here. He’s the player on the Blues I expect to have the biggest impact in comparison to the first 3 rounds.
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 23 @ 3:54 PM ET
Rask, Tukka - BOS Goaltender
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 23 @ 4:02 PM ET
I agree with Rask, but I am a little surprised that no one has said Marchand. 18 points in 17 games. He's had a great run and aside from the punch on Harrington, he's exercised a lot of self restraint.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 23 @ 4:03 PM ET
I agree with Rask, but I am a little surprised that no one has said Marchand. 18 points in 17 games. He's had a great run and aside from the punch on Harrington, he's exercised a lot of self restraint.
- mgriffen


It's kinda sad that this is listed as a positive for a player.
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

May 23 @ 4:56 PM ET
Yeah, I don't normally respond but this guy is so wrong. While I do agree it should usually go to the winning team giguere had arguably one of the best playoff performances of all time. I have no horse in this race personally but to look at those two rosters at the time and especially what giguere did against the wild (5 goals in 4 games I believe in the conference finals!) is just about as deserving a winner as there could be
- gonch


I have a name
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

May 23 @ 5:00 PM ET
A player can be far and away the best player in playoff/final and still have his team end up runner-up. I think that winning should be factor, but not a requirement.
- jmatchett383


Read everyone's comments but still completely disagree. I would NEVER award the Conn Smyth to a member of a losing team. It's a very similar argument when voting for league MVP....you gotta make the playoffs to win the award. (See McDavid)

Plus the stats were very close:
JSG - 15-6 record, 1.62 GAA, .945 sv% and 5 shutouts
MB - 16-8 record, 1.65 GAA, .934 sv% and 7 shutouts

So with almost the same stats, why doesn't the Stanley Cup winning goalie take home the Conn Smyth? I just don't buy it!
Always Mighty
Anaheim Ducks
Joined: 09.08.2008

May 23 @ 5:25 PM ET
Read everyone's comments but still completely disagree. I would NEVER award the Conn Smyth to a member of a losing team. It's a very similar argument when voting for league MVP....you gotta make the playoffs to win the award. (See McDavid)

Plus the stats were very close:
JSG - 15-6 record, 1.62 GAA, .945 sv% and 5 shutouts
MB - 16-8 record, 1.65 GAA, .934 sv% and 7 shutouts

So with almost the same stats, why doesn't the Stanley Cup winning goalie take home the Conn Smyth? I just don't buy it!

- Crushers68


Because Jiggy was the far better goalie in rounds 1 through 3 and carried a far weaker to team to game 7 of the Cup Final. I'd call that a pretty good argument for why he won.
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

May 23 @ 5:33 PM ET
Because Jiggy was the far better goalie in rounds 1 through 3 and carried a far weaker to team to game 7 of the Cup Final. I'd call that a pretty good argument for why he won.
- Always Mighty


Far better? How? Again, the stats are almost identical for all 4 rounds and Marty won the most important game......the last one, via a shutout to boot!
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